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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_January_1


January 1

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:Flora

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Nominator's rationale: It is totally redundant. Category:Biota was merged in Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_23#Category:Biota, and Category:Fauna has always been a redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Biota by biogeographic realm

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Nominator's rationale: Consistency with all other biota categories. In fact, one of the nominated categories was an exact duplicate. I'm not sure if the ocean-based ones should be suffixed with realm, as their parent categories are not. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Higher-level bird taxa restricted to single zoogeographic regions

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Nominator's rationale: An odd grouping that isn't part of an established system and is redundant to "Endemic fauna" categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Endemic birds of East Asia

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Nominator's rationale: None of these three taxa are correctly placed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Psychological warfare handbooks and manuals

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Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article, seems unnecessary Prezbo (talk) 11:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Psychological warfare unless it is possible to place it into a more specific category. I'm not sure about this one. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:26, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Torture handbooks and manuals

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Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article, so seems unnecessary. Prezbo (talk) 11:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the one article will have been placed into Category:Torture in the United States. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:25, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Urban guerrilla warfare handbooks and manuals

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Nominator's rationale: Seems too specific, thinly populated (I removed a couple), the line between "guerrilla warfare" and "urban guerrilla warfare" is very blurry. Prezbo (talk) 11:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge also to Category:Urban guerrilla warfare. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment After nominating this, I realized that Wikipedia no longer has an article on Urban guerrilla warfare -- it was redirected to Guerrilla warfare last year. So maybe I should be asking whether Category:Urban guerrilla warfare needs to exist as well? Prezbo (talk) 13:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Khan cricketing family

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Nominator's rationale: At minimum we should make this change to match other subcategories of Category:Sports families. But also, is this the most famous family of Khans in cricket? Category:Family of Imran Khan might beg to differ. If folks agree, maybe Category:Khan family (Bangladesh) is wiser. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Karras football family

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Nominator's rationale: Needs to specify the right kind of football, and also match other subcategories of Category:American football families. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Massachusetts whaling families

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Nominator's rationale: This is an odd triple intersection with no parent on the whaling side. We should create the parent and also make sure these are in the Massachusetts family category as well. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Amuze games

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Nominator's rationale: Company has too little output to warrant its own category. Literally two games so it isn't really needed. Article had already been redirected for lack of notability beyond its products. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Category-Class 20th Century Studios pages of NA-importance

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Nominator's rationale: There are no category-class pages of non-NA importance, and as such this duplicates Category:Category-Class 20th Century Studios pages. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. We should open a mass CfD for all NA-importance categories for non-articles. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Arab supporters of Israel

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Nominator's rationale: This category should either be renamed to be consistent with the child categories of Algerian Zionists etc, or the subcategories should be purged or renamed. Being a Zionist doesn't mean that you support the state of Israel. Zionism advocates for a Jewish homeland; not all Zionists support the state of Israel. And people who support Israel don't need to do so because of Zionism. @AHI-3000: for making me aware of the category naming discrepancy SMasonGarrison 03:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support and also rename Category:Muslim supporters of Israel to Category:Muslim Zionists, in order to match it with Category:Arab Zionists and Category:Christian Zionists. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with adding the category to the nomination. But you need to tag it. SMasonGarrison 03:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: I already placed the CFD template on Category:Muslim supporters of Israel. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: Should we combine #Category:Muslim supporters of Israel into this discussion? AHI-3000 (talk) 04:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"I'm fine with adding the category to the nomination" SMasonGarrison 04:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Supporters of Israel are explicitly Zionists. Dimadick (talk) 03:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes indeed. @Smasongarrison doesn't agree though, even though almost everyone agrees that "Zionist" is usually used to mean "supporter of Israel". These meanings are far from being mutually exclusive. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's the point of tagging me? I literally made the nomination. I don't disagree that the common understanding is that these are often used as synonyms. SMasonGarrison 03:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So do you agree or not that Category:Muslim supporters of Israel is an appropriate subcategory of Category:Zionists? AHI-3000 (talk) 03:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not appropriate until it is renamed. SMasonGarrison 04:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Muslim supporters of Israel, but I still do not see consensus for any particular action. Further discussion would be appreciated :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still no consensus to do anything in particular, but purge Category:Arab supporters of Israel as suggested by LaundryPizza03?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • LaundryPizza03 makes a very good point (e.g. the Moroccan subcategory only contains a Moroccan Jew) but removing the subcategories does not really solve this. We should rather nominate the subcategories separately for selective upmerge to the Arab parent. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Neapolitan families

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Nominator's rationale: A request to rename to Category:Families from Naples was opposed on Speedy, in favor of this better name. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Kaliforniyka's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Alvarado wrestling family

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Nominator's rationale: Opposed on Speedy. The article is at Alvarado wrestling family but this is a subcategory of Category:Professional wrestling families, so I thought the rename made sense. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Professional wrestling families. Further discussion on which category should be renamed is needed :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose moving to "category:wrestling families". Professional wrestling is not the same thing as wrestling. They share similar moves, but it's similar to the difference between a Ballerina and a Gymnast.Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The proposal to merge Category:Professional wrestling families will be posted in the lead.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Establishments in Iran, pre-1935

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Nominator's rationale: Alright, starting a new year! Most pre-1935 categories have fewer than five pages. Also, is there a precedent that Wikipedia should be using the name Iran prior to 1935? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: HNY. I'm working through mosques (globally); and will be adding the year/decade/century of establishment, where known. Some may be be pre-1935; others after. I'm just finishing off the mosques in Canada, right now. I'll tackle Iran next. Yeah, pre-1935 is a problem. What should be used, prior to 1935, Ottoman Empire, Safavid Iran, Persia, etc.? Rangasyd (talk) 02:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We would use Safavid Iran only between 1501 and 1736, unless consensus is to use Persia for this time period. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support at least until and including the 19th century. Many categories with only 1-3 articles is unhelpful for navigation. The establishments categories in the early 20th century become somewhat better populated though so I am neutral on those. As for the name Iran, see also Name of Iran. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional characters by attribute

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Nominator's rationale: This is not necessary. There are no other categories using "By attribute" in the title. This category was probably only created to move all the subcategories of Fiction characters that begin with "Fictional characters by" in the title (but for some reason someone has recently removed Fictional characters by medium). It's like if I made a category titled "Films by attribute". Attribute is also used incorrectly; the noun would specifically refer to a quality (something good; which would be opinionated); not just any trait. Simply merging with fictional characters is highly recommended but perhaps we could also make a new category titled "Fictional characters by in-universe trait" that would be used the move subcategories from the parent and this category including fictional orphans and billionaires? Maybe not. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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